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Ossmodula mutations
Hey all. Me again. Anyways, kinda got some ponderings about the Ossmodula organ implanted in the Space Marine young ones. It's supposed to make the bones absorb ceramic to make them stronger, but in some thinkings on what to do about making a Space Marine chapter (A cursed founding one at that
), it got me thinking on mutations of the Ossmodula.
And this mutation I'm thinking about not only has the bones, but also the living tissue of the Space Marine absorb miniscule amounts of ceramic, therefore, over a long, long period of time (at least 700 years and if the marine doesn't die) the marines turns into statues of ceramic (Imagine Thing from Fantastic 4, but as a ceramic dude). And me being… well… me, I decided to call this process 'Ceramification' based off of calcification.
So, the questions that plague me are could it be possible? And the other questions involve the Sons of Antaeus, but I'll just ignore them right now.
), it got me thinking on mutations of the Ossmodula.And this mutation I'm thinking about not only has the bones, but also the living tissue of the Space Marine absorb miniscule amounts of ceramic, therefore, over a long, long period of time (at least 700 years and if the marine doesn't die) the marines turns into statues of ceramic (Imagine Thing from Fantastic 4, but as a ceramic dude). And me being… well… me, I decided to call this process 'Ceramification' based off of calcification.
So, the questions that plague me are could it be possible? And the other questions involve the Sons of Antaeus, but I'll just ignore them right now.

Lord of Insanity- Member

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See the Black Dragons Mister LoI.
I have never heard the 700 years causing them to turn into statues of ceramic and I find those claims highly dubious.
I have never heard the 700 years causing them to turn into statues of ceramic and I find those claims highly dubious.

ChaosMonkey- Member

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Well Mister Monkey, the Black Dragons have a different mutation then what I'm talking about. Since there doesn't have to be one specific mutation for each implanted organ. The Black Dragons have no involvement in what I'm talking about either. I'm talking about the possibility of the Ossmodula mutating to cause marines to absorb ceramic not into their bones, but also their living tissue. Something completely and utter different from the Black Dragons, in which the Ossmodula's mutation causes them to form ceramic blades basically from their bodies.

Lord of Insanity- Member

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I meant for mutations of Ossmodula you should see that.
As for the ceramic absorption... it's not that too far flung. Keep in mind that ceramics encompass a *VERY* large amount of super-alloys (Alloys that are both light weight and durable enough to survive a shot from a rocket launcher). If one of those super-alloys was formed by Calcium bonding with something else, then all that Ossmodula would have to do is add metal X during Calcification and presto chango, you have yourself ceramic bones.
As for the ceramic absorption... it's not that too far flung. Keep in mind that ceramics encompass a *VERY* large amount of super-alloys (Alloys that are both light weight and durable enough to survive a shot from a rocket launcher). If one of those super-alloys was formed by Calcium bonding with something else, then all that Ossmodula would have to do is add metal X during Calcification and presto chango, you have yourself ceramic bones.

ChaosMonkey- Member

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Nope, geneseed is stored in the throat and the chest.
The throats in Space Marines are (relatively) unarmored. The chest is a different matter entirely. Have you ever seen a ribcage though? Unless the ribs are fused together (I forget off-hand if that's a part of Space Marine raising), then there are holes by which you could use an instrument to pick it out. If not, then you can always go through the Black Carapace.
The throats in Space Marines are (relatively) unarmored. The chest is a different matter entirely. Have you ever seen a ribcage though? Unless the ribs are fused together (I forget off-hand if that's a part of Space Marine raising), then there are holes by which you could use an instrument to pick it out. If not, then you can always go through the Black Carapace.

ChaosMonkey- Member

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Forget the bones. They do what they're supposed to do in SMs. I'm talking about the flesh, skin, muscle, etc. of the Space Marine. From my understanding, the living tissue of a Space Marine doesn't absorb any ceramic molecules unlike the bones, due to the Ossmodula. While the Black Dragons' mutation is one where the develop spikes of ceramic on their joints, still connected to their bones.
The mutation I'm discussing is where the hormones that allows the bones to absorb ceramic molecules to strengthen and make them grow, also causes the skin, muscles, flesh, ligaments, etc. to absorb the ceramic molecules. Therefore, over time, the body of the marine starts to actually turn 'into' ceramic as the molecules of the ceramic becomes intertwined with the molecular structure of the Space Marine himself. Think of it as cancer. But of ceramic.
The mutation I'm discussing is where the hormones that allows the bones to absorb ceramic molecules to strengthen and make them grow, also causes the skin, muscles, flesh, ligaments, etc. to absorb the ceramic molecules. Therefore, over time, the body of the marine starts to actually turn 'into' ceramic as the molecules of the ceramic becomes intertwined with the molecular structure of the Space Marine himself. Think of it as cancer. But of ceramic.

Lord of Insanity- Member

Re: Ossmodula mutations
I'm 90% sure that they don't have any ceramic absorption in the flesh/skin/muscle LoI. Throw me a link to where exactly it says that. The only reason I highly doubt it is because the original founders of 40k were of a scientific leaning and I can tell you right now that, no matter how light/pliable super-alloys are, they aren't *THAT* flexible. There's also all sorts of metabolic processes that that would destroy.

ChaosMonkey- Member

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*Facepalm.* Like I said, CM. It's a MUTATION of the Ossmodula! Something I THOUGHT up for a Space Marine Chapter I was thinking of creating for the frak of it. Of course there would be no fluff about it.

Lord of Insanity- Member

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OH!

Sorry LoI, I didn't read that part. My apologies, now what you're saying makes more sense. For a while there I thought you had lost your marbles
Anyway, it wouldn't work. You'd have to make epically large changes to the marine's biology to compensate for the calcification (or metalication) of the body. At a certain point they wouldn't even resemble anything human anymore.

Sorry LoI, I didn't read that part. My apologies, now what you're saying makes more sense. For a while there I thought you had lost your marbles
Anyway, it wouldn't work. You'd have to make epically large changes to the marine's biology to compensate for the calcification (or metalication) of the body. At a certain point they wouldn't even resemble anything human anymore.

ChaosMonkey- Member

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*Whaps a mallet to CM's head.* Though… would it really matter if I lost my marbles? My name kinda implies I may have already.
But that's what I've been asking about. The changes would occur slowly, almost without notice throughout the Marine's life. AS long as he doesn't die of course. So a marine living only like 200 years wouldn't notice what's happening to him while a 700-900 (That'd be one damned good Space Marine) year old Marine would notice how his skin would develop a strange hardening as the mutation would have had enough time to develop and grow.
But that's what I've been asking about. The changes would occur slowly, almost without notice throughout the Marine's life. AS long as he doesn't die of course. So a marine living only like 200 years wouldn't notice what's happening to him while a 700-900 (That'd be one damned good Space Marine) year old Marine would notice how his skin would develop a strange hardening as the mutation would have had enough time to develop and grow.

Lord of Insanity- Member

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Basically a Terminator-esque version of a Space Marine. It sounds good, however you said there is going to be no fluff about them, so that really does sound like a death-deal considering what's the point in having metal Space Marines if there isn't going to be a good story behind them...
Things like: How did the mutation come to be? Was it purely experimental? Was it a hidden secret that the Adeptus Mechanicus was experimenting with?
Stating they are Metal men and not giving any infomation apart from "they have mutated" is kind of silly. The Chapter's Apothecaries are surely trying to unlock the reasons why, no? And if they are keeping it a secret from everyone, however, sooner or later the Inquisition is going to 'wiff' that stink when the Ad-mech require the Geen-seed for evaluation.
Things like: How did the mutation come to be? Was it purely experimental? Was it a hidden secret that the Adeptus Mechanicus was experimenting with?
Stating they are Metal men and not giving any infomation apart from "they have mutated" is kind of silly. The Chapter's Apothecaries are surely trying to unlock the reasons why, no? And if they are keeping it a secret from everyone, however, sooner or later the Inquisition is going to 'wiff' that stink when the Ad-mech require the Geen-seed for evaluation.

J.Blaze- Administrator
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I get what you're saying Faithy. I'm currently working and fleshing out my Adroit Golems (The name of my chapter). So all that's been said will be answered in time. So my own fluff may or may not contain the answers (Since, if a chapter bursts into flame and is nigh on wiped out, who knows what'll happen to a chapter that turns into metal statues).

Lord of Insanity- Member

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